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		<title>Riddle for Construction Attorneys: Does Lien Clock Start When Materials Leave Supplier or Arrive At Jobsite?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wolfe Jr</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Mechanic Liens]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s funny how you&#8217;ll go years not thinking of a particular issue, and then run into it two or three times in the same week.  That&#8217;s the case for the current riddle about mechanic lien law now confronting me.  And since I can&#8217;t find any answers in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny how you&#8217;ll go years not thinking of a particular issue, and then run into it two or three times in the same week.  That&#8217;s the case for the current riddle about mechanic lien law now confronting me.  And since I can&#8217;t find any answers in a survey of mechanic lien cases in the US, I turn to the world of construction attorneys to help.</p>
<p>So, it&#8217;s clear that mechanic liens must be filed within a prescribed time period in every state, and it&#8217;s clear that the time period starts at some defined marker. While not the case in all states, in many states the lien deadlines begin from when the lien claimant last furnished labor and/or materials to a project.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve written about some nuances presented by this trigger date in the past, mostly related to whether punch list work or warranty work will count as a day of furnishing.  See, for example, &#8220;<a href="http://constructionlienblog.com/2009/11/the-importance-of-knowing-when-your-lien-period-begins/">The Importance of Knowing When Your Lien Period Begins</a>&#8221; and &#8220;<a href="http://constructionlienblog.com/2010/01/think-you-know-the-last-date-you-delivered-materials-or-performed-services-think-again/">Think You Know The Last Date You Delivered Materials or Performed Services?  Think Again</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p>A few material suppliers have recently inquired with me as to whether their last date of &#8220;furnishing&#8221; is the date the materials arrive at the jobsite, or the date when the common carrier takes control of the materials if they are delivered to a loading dock FOB?  (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOB_(shipping)">Definition of FOB, by the way, available on Wikipedia at this link</a>).</p>
<p>The concept, of course, is that if the materials are delivered to a common carrier FOB, the title will actually pass from the supplier to the prime contractor / subcontractor / owner at the moment it hits the FOB location.  So, does that mean the materials were &#8220;furnished?&#8221;</p>
<p>Or, are the materials not really &#8220;furnished&#8221; because they were merely put into the contractor or owner&#8217;s name and not yet furnished to the job site itself?  Liens are, after all, claims against the property and not against any specific individual in a theoretical sense&#8230;</p>
<p>I think this is a great question, but I honestly cannot find an answer <img src='http://constructionlienblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt="Riddle for Construction Attorneys: Does Lien Clock Start When Materials Leave Supplier or Arrive At Jobsite?" class='wp-smiley' title="construction law mechanic liens  Riddle for Construction Attorneys: Does Lien Clock Start When Materials Leave Supplier or Arrive At Jobsite?" /> .  What says you?</p>
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		<title>How Long Will A Mechanic Lien Cause Havoc?   Not Very</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wolfe Jr</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Mechanic Liens]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[I ran across a blog post this afternoon that clearly summarized an important point: There is a misconception that once a lien is filed or recorded against a property, it remains there indefinitely, similar to a deed or mortgage.  (Refinance PA Mortgage Blog). Very well put. The [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ran across a blog post this afternoon that clearly summarized an important point:</p>
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<blockquote>There is a misconception that once a lien is filed or recorded against a property, it remains there indefinitely, similar to a deed or mortgage.  (<a href="http://refinancepamortgage.blogsml.com/mechanics-liens-how-to-get-paid-guide-how-long-does-a-lien-stay-on-the-property.html">Refinance PA Mortgage Blog</a>).</p></blockquote>
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<p>Very well put. The point is absolutely true.  Many, many folks in the construction industry think that mechanic liens will impair a property until the lien is paid.   This is not the case.</p>
<p>In some states &#8211; like in <a href="http://constructionlienblog.com/tag/california/">California</a> &#8211; the mechanic lien is only valid for 90 days after its registration.   Less than three months after you file your California lien, then, the lien dissipates and is no longer affecting the property.</p>
<p>In other states, of course, the lien stays valid longer.  In <a href="http://constructionlienblog.com/tag/washington/">Washington</a>, the lien is valid for 8 months, and in <a href="http://constructionlienblog.com/tag/louisiana/">Louisiana</a>, it is valid for a full year.</p>
<p>The fact that the mechanic lien will expire does not defeat the purpose of the lien.   That&#8217;s because before the lien expires, lien claimants can file a lawsuit to &#8220;foreclose&#8221; on the lien.   When this suit is filed, the lien stays put while the merits of the foreclosure action is determined.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve written about this on two previous occasions, and I recommend you read these articles:</p>
<p><a href="http://constructionlienblog.com/2010/07/what-happens-after-you-file-a-mechanics-lien/">What Happens After You File A Mechanic&#8217;s Lien?</a></p>
<p><a href="http://constructionlienblog.com/2009/08/mechanics-lien-is-it-like-a-mortgage-yes-and-no/">Is a Mechanic&#8217;s Lien like a Mortgage?  Yes and No.</a></p>
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		<title>What You Need To Do Immediately After Filing A Construction Lien</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 09:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wolfe Jr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, you filed your construction lien on time.  Whew!   Now what? If you&#8217;re a subscriber to our blog, you know we frequently post about the technical requirements and strict deadlines that lead up to the filing of a construction lien.   We don&#8217;t, however, frequently discuss the technical [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, you filed your construction lien on time.  Whew!   <em>Now what?</em></p>
<p>If you&#8217;re a subscriber to our blog, you know we frequently post about the <a href="http://constructionlienblog.com/tag/lien-dangers/">technical requirements and strict deadlines </a>that lead up to the filing of a construction lien.   We don&#8217;t, however, frequently discuss the technical requirements and strict deadlines that follow a lien&#8217;s filing.   There are a few, and as usual, these requirements vary state-by-state.</p>
<p>Generally speaking, however, you have to keep two things in mind immediately after filing a construction lien.</p>
<p><strong>First</strong>, you may need to send notice of filed lien to the property owner and/or contractors &#8220;up the chain.&#8221;  In some states (like in <a href="http://constructionlienblog.com/tag/texas/">Texas</a>) a lien is actually <em>unenforceable</em> unless a copy of the filed lien is delivered to the property owner within 5 days of its filing.   That&#8217;s a serious penalty, and a pretty immediate deadline.   Other states have similar penalties (in <a href="http://constructionlienblog.com/tag/oregon/">Oregon</a>, for example, you cannot collect attorneys fees from the other party in foreclosing on lien that was not delivered to the property owner after filing).</p>
<p>Now, here is how Zlien helps.</p>
<p>Any liens ordered from us (in any state) are delivered to the property owner and all other interested parties (those named on the lien) immediately after filing.   Notice of the filing is delivered certified mail, and a record of the mailing is maintained in your online account, available for you to review or download at anytime.   You simply place your order and forget about it &#8211; we do all the rest.</p>
<p><strong>Second</strong>, liens expired if they are not &#8220;foreclosed upon&#8221; or &#8220;enforced&#8221; within a certain period of time.    In some states, liens must be enforced within just 90 days (<a href="http://constructionlienblog.com/tag/california/">California</a>), while other states can provide up to 2 years (<a href="http://constructionlienblog.com/tag/texas/">Texas</a>).   Failure to file a lawsuit enforcing / foreclosing the lien will result in the lien expiring.</p>
<p>How does Zlien help with this?</p>
<p>Well, once you put the &#8220;Lien&#8217;s Filing Date&#8221; into our system, the system will calculate your lien&#8217;s expiration date.  If you order the lien from Zlien, we&#8217;ll put the date in the system for you.    We don&#8217;t actually foreclose or enforce the lien for you (you&#8217;ll need an attorney for that), we do give you a heads-up when the deadline is approaching.</p>
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		<title>The Risks of Litigating a Washington Construction Lien</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wolfe Jr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our friends at Wolfe Law Group have just started publishing a new blog that focuses on construction law issues in the Pacific Northwest, and specifically in Washington and Oregon.    So, subscribe to their feed and check out that blog to keep tabs on construction (and lien) issues [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our friends at <a href="http://www.wolfelaw.com">Wolfe Law Group</a> have just started publishing a new blog that focuses on construction law issues in the Pacific Northwest, and specifically in Washington and Oregon.    So, subscribe to <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/nwconstruction">their feed</a> and check out that blog to keep tabs on construction (and lien) issues in those states.</p>
<p>Their first post is of special interest to us in at the Construction Lien Blog.    It&#8217;s title gives away its substance:  &#8220;<a href="http://www.nwconstructionlawyers.com/2009/12/21/the-risk-of-litigating-a-washington-construction-lien/">The Risk of Litigating a Washington Construction Lien</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p>More than simply a discussion on <a href="http://www.avvo.com/legal-guides/disputing-construction-lien-Washington">how to actually dispute a mechanics lien</a>, the post reviews the potential risk and rewards connected to any proceeding to have a lien overturned.   While this post obviously provides information to those looking to dispute a mechanics lien, it&#8217;s also revealing to those who hold or who are filing liens.</p>
<p>In Washington, anyone who disputes a lien faces potential risk&#8230;or reward.  If they win and the lien is overturned, they <em>may</em> be entitled to attorneys fees.  If they lose and the lien is upheld, the lien claimant <em>will</em> be entitled to attorneys fees.   Since lien dispute proceedings can cost thousands in attorneys fees, the Washington laws require parties disputing a lien to think long and hard about whether to bring this type of action.</p>
<p>Why is this important to those who hold or are filing liens?   Simple:  It demonstrates just how strong a construction lien can be.</p>
<p>In prior posts, <a href="http://constructionlienblog.com/2009/07/what-to-do-if-your-lien-is-challenged/">we wrote about how construction liens are not typically invalid simply because someone claims payment is not due</a>.   Usually, for a lien to be declared invalid, there must be some sort of facially or procedural defect with it (it is filed late, it does not properly describe the property, etc.).</p>
<p>These technical and procedural defects may lead to a lien&#8217;s demise&#8230;but other very critical issues (validity of back charges, change orders, timing of payments, etc.) will likely not.    So, while both parties may have arguments on each of these disputed issues, before using those arguments to dispute a construction lien, the disputing party will have to consider the risk.</p>
<p>And in Washington, there is quite a bit of risk.</p>
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		<title>The Importance of Knowing When Your Lien Period Begins</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wolfe Jr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In nearly every state, the construction lien statutes require that claimants record their mechanics lien withing a certain &#8220;lien period.&#8221;    The start of the lien period has a specific beginning date, and the lien period usually extends for a period of days or months from this start [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In nearly every state, the construction lien statutes require that claimants record their mechanics lien withing a certain &#8220;lien period.&#8221;    The start of the lien period has a specific beginning date, and the lien period usually extends for a period of days or months from this start date.   Mechanic liens filed outside the lien period are typically unenforceable.</p>
<p>Knowing when the <em>end</em> of the lien period arrives is important, but perhaps not as important as knowing when the lien period <em>begins</em>.   After all, without knowing the start date, it&#8217;ll be impossible for you to calculate the end date.</p>
<p>In most states, the lien period will begin upon the &#8220;completion&#8221; of the project as a whole, the &#8220;completion&#8221; of your particular scope of work, or the &#8220;last date&#8221; you furnished labor and/or materials.</p>
<p>While this may sound like a straight-forward requirement, it is not always so.  In many states (if not most states), labor and/or materials necessary to perform remedial, punch list items, or warranty obligations are generally <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">not</span></strong> considered in establishing the completion date or the last date of providing work.  Contractors and suppliers, therefore, can theoretically have the lien period begin days, weeks or months before they are off the job.</p>
<p>The problem here is clear:  Sometimes, owners or other contractors hold progress payments until the warranty or punch list work is complete.    In theory, your lien period could expire before you&#8217;re ever &#8220;unpaid.&#8221;</p>
<p>Knowing when your lien period begins is critical.  And sometimes, to preserve your lien rights, you may find it necessary to file a lien before the project is finally complete, and before payment has become a major point of contention. (Read two articles on this issue here:  <a href="http://www.chs-law.com/2005/09/california-mechanics-lien-tips.html"> Re: California law</a> and <a href="http://www.szd.com/resources.php?NewsID=1451&amp;method=unique">Re: Ohio law</a>).</p>
<p>Our free <a href="http://www.expresslien.com/x/main/login">Lien Pilot</a> helps your company calculate and control lien deadlines.   Once you put in the critical date (i.e. date last labor / materials furnished), the Pilot will calculate the due date for your lien in the applicable state and on the applicable project.  However, for this calculation to be accurate, it&#8217;s important to know when that date is.</p>
<p>Every state&#8217;s law is different, and so you should consult the law in your state to determine exactly when your lien period begins.</p>
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		<title>Washington Law Protects Contractors from Dangers of Frivolous Lien Statute</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 11:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Reiser</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A quick word from the construction law case files: The Court of Appeals, Division 1, out in Washington state, has refused to deem a construction lien as frivolous based upon the complexity of the construction contract at dispute. The court in SD Deacon Corp. of Washington v. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick word from the construction law case files:</p>
<p>The Court of Appeals, Division 1, out in Washington state, has refused to deem a construction lien as frivolous based upon the complexity of the construction contract at dispute. The court in <a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=3&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.waconstructionlaw.com%2FDeacon.pdf&amp;ei=uXtTStLEHpGIswPY57COBw&amp;usg=AFQjCNHLpbVJhgyovTTGt1iCs81gqKdo_w&amp;sig2=KGjNXTVtPIFnA3oju36sEw"><em>SD Deacon Corp. of Washington v. Gaston Bros. Excavating, Inc</em></a>., decided back in May of this year, that the state&#8217;s &#8220;frivilous lien&#8221; statute, coded under RCW 60.04.081, requires a more in-depth analysis of factual circumstances surrounding the substance of the contract and the lien.</p>
<p>The court in SD Deacon further reasoned that a court can only evaluate in a frivolous lien proceeding are, by way of example, whether the lien was properly filed, signed by the proper party, properly served, and meets the statutory form requirements. Issues of substance of the lien (i.e. the contract amount, amount due or change orders) are issues which require more substantive proceedings to analyze factual circumstances.</p>
<p>Because the frivolous lien procedure codified in <a href="http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=60.04.081">RCW 60.04.081</a> does not provide for such proceedings, a party seeking to extinguish a lien filing will be unsuccessful in attempting to show to the court that the lien was frivolous.</p>
<p>Essentially, the court&#8217;s new rule is that the &#8220;lien must be so devoid of merit that the claim has no possibility of succeeding&#8221; and that &#8220;there must be findings supporting the conclusion that the lien is invalid beyond legitimate dispute.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Court&#8217;s ruling provides some hope for &#8220;fringe&#8221; contractors who&#8217;s claims hold some element of uncertainty, but who desperately need the security provided by a lien in order to collect payment from an uphill contractor or owner.</p>
<p>The frivolous lien statute was enacted to prevent fraudulent claims against contractors, by awarding successful parties attorneys fees. The ruling in the case shows that the award of fees will not be granted unless your lien fails to meet statutory form requirements.</p>
<p>Zlien, Inc. has the knowledge and experience to meet these stringent requirements. Let us help you ensure your lien&#8217;s success!</p>
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		<title>Great Information on Massachusetts Lien Laws at the Massachusetts Builders Blog</title>
		<link>http://constructionlienblog.com/2009/04/great-information-on-massachusetts-lien-laws-at-the-massachusetts-builders-blog/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 15:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wolfe Jr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Massachusetts construction attorney Andrea Goldman operates a great blog for builders, contractors, subcontractors and other construction industry professionals in the state.  You can also visit her law office online here. The Massachusetts Builders Blog has recently posted a string of blog articles about mechanic lien laws in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Massachusetts construction attorney Andrea Goldman operates a great blog for builders, contractors, subcontractors and other construction industry professionals in the state.  You can also visit her <a href="http://andreagoldmanlaw.com/">law office online here</a>.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://buildingconfidence-llc.blogspot.com">Massachusetts Builders Blog</a> has recently posted a string of blog articles about mechanic lien laws in the state &#8211; they are must-reads for anyone doing construction in Mass.</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://buildingconfidence-llc.blogspot.com/2009/03/who-can-file-mechanics-lien-in.html">Who Can File A Mechanics Lien in Massachusetts</a></li>
<li><a href="http://buildingconfidence-llc.blogspot.com/2008/06/strength-of-mechanic-lien_12.html">The Strength of a Mechanic&#8217;s Lien</a></li>
<li><a href="http://buildingconfidence-llc.blogspot.com/2009/03/filing-mechanics-liens-in-massachusetts.html">Filing Mechanic&#8217;s Liens in Mass. &#8211; How to Avoid Mistakes</a></li>
<li><a href="http://buildingconfidence-llc.blogspot.com/2006/12/difference-between-mechanic-liens-and_18.html">Difference between Mechanics Liens and Real Estate Attachments</a></li>
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		<title>Virginia&#8217;s Payment Chain &amp; Why It&#8217;s Important to Lien Early</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wolfe Jr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[By statute, the deadline for contractors to file mechanics liens on projects in Virgina is 90 days from the last providing of services or materials.  However, because of Virginia&#8217;s unique &#8220;payment chain,&#8221;  subs and suppliers should file their liens as soon as problems become apparent. The &#8220;payment [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By statute, the deadline for contractors to file mechanics liens on projects in Virgina is 90 days from the last providing of services or materials.  However, because of Virginia&#8217;s unique &#8220;payment chain,&#8221;  subs and suppliers should file their liens as soon as problems become apparent.</p>
<p>The &#8220;payment chain&#8221; rules can be quite complex, but its theory is simple:  The property owner must pay for the project only once.</p>
<p>In other words, if the owner pays the general contractor for work <em>before</em> a lien is filed, the lien against the property owner will fail.</p>
<p>So while the Virginia statues provide contractors with 90 days to file their liens, the practical deadline for filing a subcontractor&#8217;s mechanic&#8217;s lien is <em>before the GC is paid</em>.</p>
<p><strong>What This Means<br />
</strong>In previous posts (<a href="http://constructionlienblog.com/common-collection-mistakes-and-pitfalls/">here</a>, <a href="http://constructionlienblog.com/lienerrors/">here</a> and <a href="http://constructionlienblog.com/7-habits-of-contractors-who-lose-money%E2%80%A6and-how-to-break-them/">here</a>), we&#8217;ve written about some <a href="http://constructionlienblog.com/tag/lien-errors/">mistakes</a> contractors make when collecting on non-paying projects.  Over and over again, it seems contractors wait too long to file their liens, accept promises of future payments, and fear filing a mechanic&#8217;s lien to avoid staining relationships.</p>
<p>While in some states a small amount of delay is bearable, the &#8220;payment chain&#8221; in Virginia makes it deadly.</p>
<p>Across the United States, the best way to protect yourself from a non-paying project is to <a href="http://constructionlienblog.com/three-reasons-why-its-critical-to-lien/">lien, and lien early</a>.  The &#8220;payment chain&#8221; in Virginia makes this more the case.</p>
<p><strong>Understanding the Payment Chain<br />
</strong>While the theory behind the &#8220;payment chain&#8221; is simple, as with any other legal concept, the details are more complex.</p>
<p>Here are some questions that are often asked concerning this concept:  What if the property owner partially pays the GC?  How does this actually function in practice?   How do I know whether the owner paid the GC?  What rights do I have if I lien too late?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fullertonlaw.com">Fullerton &amp; Knowles</a>, a construction law firm in Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania and Wash. D.C. published a Construction Law Survival Manual on its website with answers to these questions.  You can find the particular discussion of the &#8220;Payment Chain&#8221; at <a href="http://www.fullertonlaw.com/9MLinVA.php#d">this link</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Things You Can Do To Prevent Payment Chain Problems<br />
</strong>The &#8220;payment chain&#8221; rules apply by default on every construction project.  However, there are features within the Virginia Code that subcontractors can use to bypass these rules.</p>
<p>The Code of Virginia&#8217;s Section 43-11 provides that by sending certain notices to the property owner and/or general contractor, the subcontractor can protect itself from a &#8220;defense of payment.&#8221;   In other words, by notifying the owner and contractor that certain materials or services were provided, the subcontractor or supplier puts the upper tier parties on notice that they deserve payment.</p>
<p>The require notices do require some administrative expense, however, as the code requires that 2 notices are actually sent.  <a href="http://www.fullertonlaw.com">Fuller &amp; Knowles</a> describe the notices and their benefits <a href="http://www.fullertonlaw.com/9MLinVA.php#do">on its website, as follows</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>First, a “Pre-registration” notice is sent to the owner and/or the general contractor before labor and materials are supplied to the project. After labor or materials are supplied, the claimant must provide a second notice with a statement of account and affidavit. The claimant supplying a subcontractor can elect to send the notice only to the general contractor. This will not obligate the owner, but will still obligate the general contractor. The potential benefits are:</p>
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<li>The Section 43-11 notice can partially take the claimant out of the defense of payment system.  The owner and upstream contractors become directly obligated for payment, to the extent they are holding money at the time they receive the second notice and statement of account. The owner and general contractor essentially provide an involuntary guarantee or joint check agreement after receipt of the second notice.</li>
<li>A Section 43-11 notice will probably also provide priority over other mechanic’s lien claimants. In a “partial defense of payment” situation, the 43-11 notice claimant can take the entire fund held by the owner and general contractor. Other mechanic’s lien claimants will receive nothing until the 43-11 claimant is paid in full.</li>
<li>There is also an extended deadline for the Section 43-11 claim second notice. A claimant may still have Section 43-11 rights, even after the deadline for mechanic’s lien filing. A claimant probably also still has Section 43-11 rights, even if the claimant has waived lien rights.</li>
<li>It is way to avoid problems and legal fees altogether. If the owner and general contractor know they may become obligated, the claimant is likely to receive payment without legal assistance. The owner and general contractor are aware of the players on the project and are motivated to see payments properly applied.</li>
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<p><strong>Zlien Can Help<br />
</strong>Zlien files mechanics liens in the State of Virginia, as we also prepare and send all Virginia construction lien notices.</p>
<p>Fuller &amp; Knowles state that the 43-11 notices are underutilized by contractors because of administrative expense.   Quite frankly, its also because the notices are confusing, and in the middle of operating your construction company it&#8217;s difficult to keep up with sending, tracking and managing these notices.</p>
<p>Zlien <span style="text-decoration: underline;">solves</span> this problem.</p>
<p>You give us the project data, and our propriety web-based software recommends certain notices and documents, and with the click on a button we&#8217;ll prepare these documents, send them for you, track them, and manage them through your client login panel.</p>
<p>Give us a shot, and let us show you how to Lien Smarter.</p>
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		<title>An Owner&#8217;s Perspective on Liens</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wolfe Jr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We frequently post about construction liens from a contractor&#8217;s perspective &#8211; who are clearly interested in figuring out ways to qualify for the filing of a lien. What we rarely comment upon is an owner&#8217;s perspective, who are concerned with the opposite:  figuring out ways to condemn [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We frequently post about construction liens from a contractor&#8217;s perspective &#8211; who are clearly interested in figuring out ways to qualify for the filing of a lien.</p>
<p>What we rarely comment upon is an owner&#8217;s perspective, who are concerned with the opposite:  figuring out ways to condemn a lien as improperly filed.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important for those who usually file mechanic&#8217;s liens to step back and consider the opposing viewpoint.   There is some value in understanding that upon receipt of a lien, an owner&#8217;s will likely have the instinct of wanting to fight it as improper or unfair.</p>
<p>When lien laws are drafted, they are drafted with protection for property owners in mind.  And when contractor boards and other regulatory agencies commit time to lien laws, they are usually focusing on educating the public (i.e. property owners) on what they can do to <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>prevent</em></span> liens.</p>
<p>A December 2008 article from the Daily Journal of Commerce in Portland, Oregon, stands as an example of this.  In the article titled &#8220;<a href="http://www.djcoregon.com/articleDetail.htm/2008/12/19/Five-questions-to-ask-about-liens-With-the-number-of-payment-disputes-perhaps-going-up-owners-should">Five Questions to Ask About Liens</a>,&#8221; the author goes through five questions owners should ask when faced with mechanic&#8217;s liens to determine their rights on proceeding forward.</p>
<p>This is not a rare example.   To the contrary, regulatory agencies across the nation who regulate contractors focus a great deal of effort on helping owners understand and overcome improperly filed construction liens.  See the page for <a href="http://www.lni.wa.gov/FormPub/results.asp?Keyword=homeowners">Department of Labor &amp; Industries in Washington</a>, or the<a href="http://www.cslb.ca.gov/Consumers/"> Contractors State Licensing Board in California.</a></p>
<p>If your company does wind up filing an improper mechanic&#8217;s lien and its disputed by the property owner, a loss in court could require your company to pay penalties, attorneys fees and more.</p>
<p>The point?   It&#8217;s important to understand the lien laws in your jurisdiction, and avoid making common errors and mistakes.</p>
<p><a href="http://andreagoldmanlaw.com/">Andrea Goldman</a>, a construction attorney in Massachusetts, publishes a great blog about this very issue titled:  <a href="http://andreagoldmanlaw.blogspot.com">Home Contractor v. Homeowner</a>.  She frequently posts on issues that surface in home construction between the property owner and contract that results in litigation or arbitration.</p>
<p>With all of the work across the nation from regulatory agencies attempting to stifle improperly filed mechanics liens, Andrea notes in her blog that mechanic&#8217;s liens are so powerful of a collection tool for contractors that even an improperly filed lien can yield non-payment.</p>
<p>In her post the &#8220;<a href="http://andreagoldmanlaw.blogspot.com/2008_06_01_archive.html">Strength of Mechanic&#8217;s Liens</a>,&#8221; Andrea states as follows:</p>
<blockquote><p>Even if the lien is not done properly, one still has to file an action in court to dissolve it, which requires paying legal fees that are frequently not recoverable.</p></blockquote>
<p>And regardless of your position on the subject (as a property owner, contractor or regulatory board), and regardless of how right or wrong your position may be, Andrea&#8217;s point is clear.   Mechanic&#8217;s liens are powerful instruments, and even when they are filed with technical defects, they cause parties to consider the debtor&#8217;s claim and contemplate a resolution.</p>
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		<title>Virginia&#8217;s Interesting 150 Day Rule</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Scott Wolfe Jr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In most states, a contractor only has 1 lien deadline of concern:  when the lien must be filed.  In Virginia, however, contractors must juggle two lien deadlines. First, like other states, Virginia has a regular lien filing time requirement.  All liens must be filed within 90 days [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In most states, a contractor only has 1 lien deadline of concern:  when the lien must be filed.  In Virginia, however, contractors must juggle two lien deadlines.</p>
<p>First, like other states, Virginia has a regular lien filing time requirement.  All liens must be filed within 90 days from when labor and services were last performed by the contractor.</p>
<p>Unlike other states, however, Virginia has an interesting second deadline, referred to in the state as the &#8220;150 day rule.&#8221;</p>
<p>From the last day of work, the claimant must count <em>backwards</em> 150 days.   Generally speaking, a contractor is not allowed to include any labor or materials supplied outside this window in its mechanics lien.</p>
<p>While the 150-day rule does not apply to retainage funds or sums not yet due because of a &#8220;pay when paid&#8221; clause, it usually applies otherwise, and will invalidate a lien if it includes sums due not within this 150-day window.</p>
<p>As mentioned in a previous post about the <a href="http://constructionlienblog.com/virginias-payment-chain-why-its-important-to-lien-early/">&#8220;payment chain&#8221; in Virginia</a>,  an arguable third deadline of concern in that state, subcontractors and suppliers in Virginia have extra motivation for filing liens immediately upon non-payment.   The 150-day rule in Virginia is even further cause.</p>
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